April 21, 2008

The Three E's of Buying a Nursing Bra

There comes a time in every woman's life when she acknowledges her dependence on a sturdy bra. This morning was such a time for me. So it was with a brave face that I went off into the battlefield of fine department stores looking to spend lofty cash on a bra that would last me through my next stage in life: The Nurse.

As a first timer, I thought I might as well try the whole nursing bra contraption, may it come with snaps or buttons or lace or bows or dangley doo-dads. I see no problem making do with one I've got now, only that hormones have done a number on my physiology and the dam is near breaking (if you follow.)

And yes I intend to nurse, I've got all sorts of great expectations. I might even nurse until The Chief goes to Kindergarten, only I just remembered that I am going to home school. Oh vey, how did things get so complicated? (And when did I turn Jewish?)

All smiles, I showed up at the "intimates" counter and asked the Dr.-Laura-looking lady (pink measuring tape for a necklace) if she could help me with a nursing bra. She looked at me for a brief second and returned leafing through a big catalog on the counter.

"Oh yes . . . let me see . . ."

Turning pages. No eye contact.

" . . . you might be a good candidate for . . ."

A good candidate for what?

This much I knew: I never want to be a good candidate for a phrase that starts with "you might be a good candidate for . . ."

" . . . a new line that comes in . . ."

Polka-dot?

The suspense is killing me.

She turns two pages.

" . . . specialty sizes . . ."

Like Double J?

" . . . oh but I can't find it here in the catalog at the moment."

Eye contact. Then bosom contact. Then belly contact.

"Have you had your baby already?"

"I hope not."

"Ok. Let's go to the dressing room."

If you are a lady, and you are reading this, only you know what happens next. I am just so gratefully glad that I live in Utah Valley where the Lingerie Specialists acknowledges your Mormon needs behind closed slatted dressing room doors. In fact, mine even went so far to say that LDS women can outwear bras longer than their non-LDS counterparts. Something about our bras being blessed? I forget now. But talk about another reason for getting baptized!

After being measured in what was a semi-formal affair, I was offered a couple options. Only that the Lingerie Specialist was very fumbley-at-the-mouth when it came to telling me my correct size. Was she embarrassed? Was I freakishly huge?

"Well, you are a . . ."

"It seems like . . ."

"Do you remember what you were before you got pregnant?"

Look, I wanted to say, nothing is worse than getting on the scale at the Dr.'s office only to have him tell you to exchange chips for nuts. Chips for nuts! A pregnancy miracle! Just lay it on me already. What is my blasted bra size?

"Triple E. I should think."

I stood all amazed. Never even knew the existence of that size.

Then with a half-curtsy she disappeared to fetch a pail of bras labeled "EEE."

I looked down, very stunned.

(And . . . admittedly a little bit proud of myself.)

Then I did what any rational wife would do. Texted my husband with the news.

[Start text.] Triple E! [End text.]

I waited for his quick (witted) response. Only it never came, and that dressing room got increasing smaller. And more lonesome. Until finally I felt like couldn't breathe. Panic! Attack!

As it turns out, life is very lonely for those of us marked Triple E.

(I found that out early enough.)

Just as I was about to dress and exit with my wire-encroaching bra of yore, the LS came back into the room. She asked me to do some bra fitting exercises with her. (Lower chest, shimmy--her word, not mine--slide into contraption, and clasp!) Ah the comfort of a well-fitted bra! Practically like not wearing one at all. (Which is always preferable.)

"Now, did I say that you were a Triple E?"

She asked businessing her hands with hangers and lacy unmentionables.

"Yes." My voice came out like I had been sucking on cotton balls. It was a huge-sized leap from nine months ago. But I am learning to own my Inner Goddess, and besides, I've never been shy about my physical endowments. Only, they've never seen that side of the alphabet before.

"Silly me! Actually, you've only gone up one cup size from your pre-pregnacy chest! Great news!"

Then she took my pink credit card and swiped away.

Making me the proud owner of two new nursing bras.




Of which sizes I shall keep a secret.

55 comments:

Cari said...

You make me smile! (And that is hard to do today.)

Natalie said...

I called every single member of my family when I got the news that my nursing breasts were almost a C!!! They have retreated back to a negative A. Respectively.

Peach ;-) said...

You just wait until your milk comes in! You will need a crane with a harness of soft bulap to sling those unbelieveable watermelons into.
Don't panic though you should go down to the E cup within 6-8 weeks if your real lucky.
p.s. big busted women have to nurse with two hands,
one to hold the brest in the mouth and the other to hold the breast back from the babies nose so he doesn't succocate i.e. boob death!
It'll be tough but worth it!
pjb

Spockwingdiamond said...

Peach is right about the nursing, I was going to say, good luck with that, it is VERY difficult for large breasted women. You have to sit just so and there is no "oh I just bring him into bed and fall asleep while he finishes nursing" unless you want to kill him that is.

Nursing is THE single most difficult part of a new baby (here I go with the straight talk again). Brace yourself for the pain, agony, and sacrifice of that baby having complete and total control of your body for another year or whatever. I am the anti-La Leche League in case you're wondering. Just do yourself a favor and save the receipts to those expensive nursing bras. PS underwire bras don't really cause milk duct cloggings - so I say just wear your normal bras, trust me, with those babies you'll have to leave the room to nurse anyway.

Spockwingdiamond said...

PPS - I've done it both ways and I love my non-nursed baby the most, because he didn't cause my life to be a complete nightmare for the first year. I think nursing is another one of those "dirty tricks" on women. I mean what are we cave men? Why do we think God gave us bottles, so we could continue to let these babies suck the life force out of us? Ok, I'm done now.

whit. ing. said...

"From the halls of Montezuma to shores of TRIPLE E..."

Good luck with the nursing thing. Both me and my son sucked at it. No pun intended.

Mrs. Dub said...

Three things - First, Miss Dub saw the brassiere graphic and shouted, "Purse!" (Which is sort of true since they are flesh pouches.)

Second, Miss Dub and I took right to nursing despite my worries. (And my cup size is adequate, I might add.)It wasn't a nightmare; it was actually quite pleasant and convenient. (Minus the leaking - oh, the leaking!)

Third, I hate nursing bras. I just like to shove my normal one up from the bottom. It's faster and more comfortable.

Anonymous said...

Here's a tip from a nurser of several... don't buy a nursing bra until your milk comes in. Your breasts are in no way, shape or form the way they will be until then - I am shocked and a little mad the woman at the store didn't tell you that (aka waste of money). Also, get a 'sleeping' nursing bra. It holds your breast pads in place while you sleep (you will leak) and is much, much more comfortable than a regular bra. Also - the best place to go for nursing bras is a specialty store (only sells nursing bras and other delights for mommas) not your neighborhood department store. The Lactation Station in SLC on Highland Dr is THE BEST. They have always done right by me and my body - always spot on with sizes and suggestions. By the way - I was a size 44F. Lovely. Good luck to you and by the way - Nursing your baby is the most wonderful thing in the world - for him and you :)
Rose

mortonfam said...

wow, that sounds like a good time. Accepting cup size is step 1. I agree that a most unpleasant experience is when your milk comes in. After that it is not pain, misery and agony for all. It can be quite the opposite! With a little exercise nursing made me the skinniest version of my self I have ever known. You'll be a champ, I just know it!

Brooke said...

so complicated. can't you just wrap them up in something comfy and stretchy?

ClistyB said...

uuuuuuuhhh cJane, dont take the tags off yet. You will get bigger. Guaranteed. Those nighttime stretchy bras are good in betweeners until your milk has been in a while and you can better gauge what size you will be.

Tharker said...

I am going to second, third, or fourth...whatever...the comment that you should hold those receipts. Your size WILL change once your milk comes in, and most likely it WILL NOT be anything close to what it is right now.

I loved nursing my babies. The first couple of weeks were always a bit of a rough start, but after that, it was wonderful.

My favorite nursing memory is when I had my youngest and he was in the hospital for the first 10 days of his life. The hospital very kindly let me borrow one of their fabulous pumps to use at our hotel. One night, my husband went out to get some ice, and when he came back in, I was hooked up to both sides of the pump. He just stood there frozen to the spot he was standing. I fully expected some husbandly vulgar comment about the scene, but all he could say was, "This SO reminds me of my days working at the BYU Dairy." Nice.

liz said...

amen sister.

it's a whole new world for the 'girls' and welcome into it!

c jane said...

People people people thank you for your concern. Please note that the LS took into very careful consideration that my nursing bras would need to be a bit bigger. Also after doing ample research (pardon the pun) two weeks before delivery is a great time to go for bras. So, let's recap:

1.) I am NOT a triple E.

2.) The bras I bought are adjustable. Technology!

3.) I won't be wearing a bra when my milk comes in because I am not going ANYWHERE for the first month.

4.) I went to the same place where generations of my family have gone and Friends in the Know.

5.)Thank you for your concerns.

liz said...

p.s. I totally had to buy a nursing bra while I was at the end of my pregnancy even though I knew they would just get bigger. The lady told me as long as you can fit a hand in there (?! not in a pervy way) you would be fine as many nursing bras are made to stretch.

That certain bra would have been worth millions even if it meant I would need new ones once the milk and baby arrived (which I did). And then another after that. So love what you got- it was not a waste of money, you need it now and will love having it on hand in the hospital and initially coming home. Then you will need to go and get a new one within that first month, but the current one isn't going to kill you so it's no emergency to grow out of it. it's perfect for now and those transition weeks.

And there is no cheap way to hold the boulders when they come in this size, I was bummed about the shocking prices but necessary. I LOVE the brand Anita. They seem to be the ones that get the huge sizes right. I found one at Nordstrom, but many options of this brand at a granola nursing/ pregnancy store

liz said...

oops. I think my comment posted right as yours did. And you already know whay I just wrote. ;-)

high five - you totally know what's going on little lady. You are going to be a super mama.

Jake & Tracy said...

thanks for the giggle! you always seem to bring a smile to my face :) I'll be experiencing this same thing soon.

Anonymous said...

Hello! OK... i have read your blog many times (never have left a comment)but had to today because this entry HAS to be one of your funniest yet! you are so clever and witty and just when i thought i was through (thru?) laughing at this hilarious post i read the last sentence and started chuckling all over again!!! you are so talented! nursing a baby should be no problem for someone with such a great sense of humor!
--nancy

La Yen said...

As one who has never needed to nurse, I am having panic attacks at all of the comments. It is like our boobies are transformers! Or the lesser-liked Go-Bots! What the crap! Surely they weren't meant to do all of that! What if I wake up one day and they have turned into a car who tries to take over the earth! And Shia LeBouef comes and tries to drive them away! What will I do? Do they make a bra for that? I need a Klonopin.

But good luck to you and Fortress Maximus.

Rynell said...

I always bought my nursing bras before delivery too. And I only went up about one cup size too.

Your dressing room tale made me laugh. I have been there, wondering if they will need to special order a freakishly large boulder holder. What a panic, then what a relief...

Bertie said...

Yes- too funny! :) I'm still in training bras it seems- and so I always get so excited when I get to go up to a normal ladies bra- that most girls get at age 12! So, if I was endowed with what you were endowed with I'd be proud too:) Even if they aren't triple E's! But- for some reason- all my fat is in my backside... go figure.

Have fun nursing!! I loved it:)

allysha said...

Too funny. At the very beginning of the post I was going to say something like "down with nursing bras" but this is coming from someone who tops out at a B with the extra hormones, so obviously we are in different camps! But, bra shopping. What fun!

AzĂșcar said...

Kindergarten? Race you.

jennie w. said...

Also get used to the idea that you will probably need a couple more nursing bras. Maybe you won't be a leaker, though. i was and I would always have a couple of bras in the washer/drying every day.
My fave nursing bra, hands down, is the Bravado. It's unbelievably comfy! Your boobs will look slouchy and sloppy in it (no underwire after all) so I also got a going-out-in-public nursing bra to make the most of my pleasantly plump chest.

Kalli Ko said...

Oh how I wish you had been at my lunch a few weeks ago where I discussed this subject and my lack of knowledge regarding it in depth, only to be met with mostly blank stares and uncomfortable coughs.

At least the dressing room attendant didn't ask you about your nipple size. I probably would have offered the information up because I'm awkward like that.

kentucky said...

That was awesome.

Leisha said...

I thought your post had me laughing until I read Mrs. Dub's comment..."flesh pouches" I love it.

Patti said...

HA! This was funny. My friend, Shell, was an HH. Who knew that was a REAL bra size.

Loved nursing all my babies. I'd never take it back. Enjoy, CJane.

AwesomeBlossom said...

"dangley doo-dads"?
Which "department store" are you shopping in? Fredricks of Babywood?

I've been a "G" before.

Ah Britty said...

I'm still on the search for the perfect nursing bra. Not that I'm nursing right now, but it's a continual thing. You found two! Awesome.

I also thought I'd tell you to check my blog because there's an interesting development from that AFV video I posted. It's pretty crazy!

Phoebe said...

There is nothing better than a good bra. Even if you have to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.
It is amazing how large those bra sizes go. Not that I would know anything about that...

loudaisy said...

That is nothing with both of my children, once my milk came in I was a size,
drum roll pleeese a "G".
Yes, you did read that right a G.
It was horrible and fantastic at the same time. Be prepared if you have a large bosom for it to explode. It does go back to original size eventually. So no worries and as stated before you do have to nurse two handed. I could not live without my boppy pillow to nurse. Gives you a bit more freedom. Holds the baby for you. And you can save the babe from suffocation. If you are determined to breast feed it will happen. I have done it with two against all odds. And always being a large breasted woman get the underwire. Do not listen to the crazy people
Happy days for you.

loudaisy said...

Oh and the best place for Huge nursing bras is in Sandy called The Maternal Instinct on 94th and 7th East. I have frequented many of the shops around town and they have the largest selection of the big sizes. I wish you luck. It is so worth it to breast feed although very very hard.

topher clark said...

I'm a little disappointed because I thought this would turn into a big nursing vs. bottle fight ala 'Segullah.'

So in absence of that conflict.....homeschooling?

Tricia said...

lol......a candidate...... for polka dots.
I have always said that Victoria's Secret should make an effort to produce a beautiful nursing bra. I mean, they help us get INTO this situation in the first place and then abandon us. that's just not right. well I'm glad you found some nice ones and that you aren't a EEE. and don't let others discourage you from nursing. sometimes its hard sometimes its easy. just surround yourself with those who support you and ignore the rest of the noise. and good for you for nesting with babe for a month. that is the BEST!

sue-donym said...

So did Chup ever text you back?

I knew you would choose what is breast for you.

Lois said...

As someone who's mammary-challenged (and the bra-sizing lady at Nordstrom's even REFUSED to help me), I just went bra-less for the two years while I nursed. I do it Africa-style. The babies were with me constantly and I fed them every 20 minutes. I slept on the floor with my kids for years and just fed them whenever.

Of course, my neighbors probably didn't care for this too much (but if you haven't seen me naked by now, you obviously don't know me very well).

Oh, in case you have problems nursing, the lactation specialists at Orem Community are AWESOME and can solve most problems over the phone.

In case you're wondering, I'm not a La Leche fanatic, I'm just a lazy mom who is SO not going spend my time washing bottles.

Geo said...

Well, after all, you are all about the cleavage.

Enjoy!

lawdy said...

Rolling. The tears are rolling down my face. No, not really, but I did laugh harder than I've laughed in a looong time. Sooooooo funny! I cannot relate.

Likely said...

me when I was 12-
"mom why don't I have boobies?"
mom - "Just wait"

Me when I was 16-

"mom why don't I have boobies?"
mom- "You aren't done growing yet, just wait"

Me at 22 before getting married-

"mom why don't I have boobies?"
mom-"You wait until you get pregnant"

Me when I was pregnant-

"Mom, why don't I have any boobies?"

"You wait till your milk comes in"

Me post partum-

"Mom, why don't I have any boobies?"

Mom- "........."

So, I am one of a few in a thousand who doesn't experiences changes in my breasts AT ALL during pregnancy. Apparently I am missing some glands which makes nursing very difficult. It is a miracle to me when I hear of other women and their increasing cuppage. I never experienced this during or after pregnancy.

a little sad actually. There is no hope left for big boobies.

Simply E said...

Brilliant! And thanks for making me smile, too.

seasonal_learner said...

Dearest CJane,

No worries. When your mild comes in you'll feel very top heavy for a few weeks. Enjoy!(though peach is right, you'll need both hands. oh, and a tv to watch since it requires both hands.)

SL

Denae (a.k.a. D-dawg) said...

Best post. Thanks for the laughs!! I love the way you describe your everday moments.

I'm so excited for you to nurse your baby. Even with some nursing struggles I've had, it is the most wonderful and amazing and wonderful experience to nurse. I love it so much and I know you will too! I get my nursing bras at bravado. com and like them a lot. If you need more later you could check out their site.

MD said...

I'm suddenly uncomfortable....

m. & m. said...

I'm thrilled that you're getting to the point where it's time to think of such things.

I, on the other hand, need tissue to fill out an A.

Congratulations on your burgeoning bosom, even if it is in preparation to be a hot little milking machine.

Team Chilton said...

I just found your blog through a friend and you're hilarious! I loved this post, but I agree with the 3rd comment (Peach), once the baby is born, your size will likely increase. I'm due with #2 in July and feeling the pinch right now, but when the milk is in...whoa!
Nursing is such a great thing though, despite the pain it causes in the beginning. You'll be so grateful for doing it! Good luck to you!

AzĂșcar said...

Kindergarten, md, kindergarten.

{natalie} said...

oh court, i'm cracking up and a day behind reading this post. jeez. i can't even imagine being a triple eee or even close...being a "nearly a" i think it's called in the training bra section of vicky's.

just think, they are going to get even bigger when the milk comes in. yee -haw!

ps i've always thought you've had great boobs

{alisse t} said...

How hilarious was this post??

SO SO Hilarious!

Amy said...

Once upon a time I was a C. Since being pregnant with my first (who is almost 2) I am MUCH larger. My dam was overflowing at 4 months pregnant. Not much has changed... lucky me. (grumble, grumble, grumble)

P.S. I L.O.V.E.D. nursing and will not do it any other way. You and your baby will find a system that works for you (large bosoms and all). The good news? The Chief doesn't know any other way! Nothing to compare to.

(you will love every minute... once you get the hang of it.)

BTW, would you mind telling me the name of the store you went to?

Carlykins said...

I used a sports bra and oh yes, Kotex are GREAT nursing pads if you produce enough milk to supply the Walmart Fridge. It will all work out.

Katie said...

I got fitted for a nursing bra at a specialty store once and she told me I was a G or something like that (I didn't know it even existed...) well- after a week- it didn't fit- good luck!

Zina said...

Even if they are a size larger, those bras might not be big enough when your milk first comes in, (and you may have already been warned of this, but that part can hurt -- it hurts me some, but for my sister it's excruciating,) but once your body adjusts again (for me usually after about 6 weeks) they should work well. Until then I do think it's a great idea to have a comfy bra just to look presentable-ish in case you do decide you miss sunlight and want to leave the house for a bit.

I went to a local shop that specializes in nursing bras and discovered they carry NO under-wires since they "cause cancer." The shop owner learned that from some radio broadcast. My sister did the research and the only source she found for this was a book by a hippie couple who don't just say that underwire bras cause cancer, but that ALL bras cause cancer -- they base this on the fact that some bra-free countries have lower cancer rates than in the developed West (get it? Developed? Ha ha!) Anyway (pulling myself back together) they didn't take into consideration any other possible factors in the differing cancer rates; they clearly just wrenched this statistic to support their agenda.

And the point of all that was just that if you can't find a good under-wire nursing bra, any good bra will do -- because no matter what anyone tells you, my experience is that there is no such thing as a truly flattering and supportive non-under-wire nursing bra. I finally figured out to just get a good underwire that's stretchy enough to heave myself out of the top (because it's harder to pull a snug-fitting under-wire up and over.) (Can I say any of that on a public blog? And still be a good Mormon girl?)

I am ample (if not triple E) but did learn to nurse lying down -- it's work until the baby can manage on their own, but my favorite way to nurse after that; it's great to get little naps all day long while nursing. Yes, it does take two hand to nurse for the first couple months, though.

If you turn out to be a leaker, Lansinoh nursing pads were the most comfortable to wear and fit smoothest under my bra -- although you may need something more absorbent at first. Last I checked, they carried them at Macey's grocery store.

Wow, it's like you just untapped all my full-bosomed nursing lore and it all came spilling out . . .

(Last bit, I promise): When I was trying to get my first baby to start nursing, my Mom was watching me and I unintentionally made her laugh when I voiced my sudden realization: "It's bigger than his head!"

Tiffany Twisted said...

You know I've always been jealous of your fabulousness.

missy said...

ok.. so this comment is a bit late, but i loved my nursing bras from target.. gillian o'malley ultimate.. style d383.. i hated the thought of having ugly nursing bras, so when i found cute lacy pink/black bras - yay! plus they were so comfy that i had to make myself stop wearing them after weaning.. (didnt want to wear them out in case i needed them for another baby and couldnt buy more!) they are underwire, which CAN cause a clogged duct if they put a lot of pressure in the same place, but i never had a problem..